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		By: Case of the Day: Missouri v. China &#124; Letters Blogatory		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Republic of China (8th Cir. 2024). I&#8217;ve written about the case before, most recently in July 2022. The gist of the case is that Missouri seeks to hold the Chinese government, the Chinese Communist [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Republic of China (8th Cir. 2024). I&#8217;ve written about the case before, most recently in July 2022. The gist of the case is that Missouri seeks to hold the Chinese government, the Chinese Communist [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Ted Folkman		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2022/07/11/case-of-the-day-missouri-v-china/#comment-3658&quot;&gt;Tom&lt;/a&gt;.

Tom, thanks for the comment. Leaving aside the question of which defendants were agencies or instrumentalities of the Chinese state and which were not, the likeliest reason for seeking alternative service, it seems to me, is that Missouri knew that the Chinese government would not execute a request for service under the Service Convention. For non-governmental defendants, a refusal to execute the request leaves service by alternate means under FRCP 4(f)(3) as the only available alternative. For governmental defendants, Missouri could (indeed would have had to) serve process by letters rogatory through the diplomatic channel, but that takes a long time. 

I think the main reason there hasn&#039;t been much litigation against the Chinese government isn&#039;t related to service of process. It&#039;s just pretty obvious that foreign sovereign immunity will apply given the nature of the allegations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2022/07/11/case-of-the-day-missouri-v-china/#comment-3658">Tom</a>.</p>
<p>Tom, thanks for the comment. Leaving aside the question of which defendants were agencies or instrumentalities of the Chinese state and which were not, the likeliest reason for seeking alternative service, it seems to me, is that Missouri knew that the Chinese government would not execute a request for service under the Service Convention. For non-governmental defendants, a refusal to execute the request leaves service by alternate means under FRCP 4(f)(3) as the only available alternative. For governmental defendants, Missouri could (indeed would have had to) serve process by letters rogatory through the diplomatic channel, but that takes a long time. </p>
<p>I think the main reason there hasn&#8217;t been much litigation against the Chinese government isn&#8217;t related to service of process. It&#8217;s just pretty obvious that foreign sovereign immunity will apply given the nature of the allegations.</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2022 16:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is worth considering why Missouri sought leave to serve process by alternate means even though the FSIA’s methods of service are exclusive. FSIA’s rules on service of process are hierarchical and exclude service by alternate means. Certainly, the Missouri AG must know this. So, why the end run rule on FSIA’s rules? It is not possible to obtain the address for service of governmental agencies; even when you have long term working relationships with Chinese attorneys. It seems the disclosure of Chinese governmental addresses is verboten; this is a likely reason why there is so little litigation in the US concerning the alleged negligence of Chinese government in the handling of the Wuhan outbreak in late 2019-20.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is worth considering why Missouri sought leave to serve process by alternate means even though the FSIA’s methods of service are exclusive. FSIA’s rules on service of process are hierarchical and exclude service by alternate means. Certainly, the Missouri AG must know this. So, why the end run rule on FSIA’s rules? It is not possible to obtain the address for service of governmental agencies; even when you have long term working relationships with Chinese attorneys. It seems the disclosure of Chinese governmental addresses is verboten; this is a likely reason why there is so little litigation in the US concerning the alleged negligence of Chinese government in the handling of the Wuhan outbreak in late 2019-20.</p>
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