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		By: Ted Folkman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Folkman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2021 16:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2021/09/08/case-of-the-day-wsou-investments-v-tp-link-technologies/#comment-3577&quot;&gt;kotodama&lt;/a&gt;.

Kotodama, thanks for this. I think that the law really does focus on where the service takes place, mainly because one of the key issues here is that deciding whether the service takes place in the United States or abroad is key to deciding whether The Hague Service Convention applies (see Article 1 of the Convention, which is keyed to transmission of documents abroad for service), and because it is against the law in many countries to serve process in their territory except through their judicial officers. But you are right to point to the troublesome issue of trying to locate a corporation in physical space, which is a problem not just in the service context but also in the context of personal jurisdiction and the context of diversity of citizenship.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2021/09/08/case-of-the-day-wsou-investments-v-tp-link-technologies/#comment-3577">kotodama</a>.</p>
<p>Kotodama, thanks for this. I think that the law really does focus on where the service takes place, mainly because one of the key issues here is that deciding whether the service takes place in the United States or abroad is key to deciding whether The Hague Service Convention applies (see Article 1 of the Convention, which is keyed to transmission of documents abroad for service), and because it is against the law in many countries to serve process in their territory except through their judicial officers. But you are right to point to the troublesome issue of trying to locate a corporation in physical space, which is a problem not just in the service context but also in the context of personal jurisdiction and the context of diversity of citizenship.</p>
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		By: kotodama		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2021 05:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a random thought.  Instead of the text you quote (“at a place not within any judicial district of the United States”), if you just look at the heading of Rule 4(f), it says: &quot;serving an individual in a foreign country.&quot;  Of course when Rule 4(h) is applied to that, as it would be here, you get: &quot;serving a [corporation] in a foreign country.&quot;  TP-Link is a &quot;corporation in a foreign country&quot; and it was &quot;served&quot; (via US counsel), so in that sense the language of the heading is literally met.

I guess what I&#039;m trying to say is, maybe the rule focuses more on the location of the party itself and not the quasi-metaphysical &quot;location&quot; where service took place?  Of course, as always this isn&#039;t my area of expertise at all, and if the latter is correct, then I agree &quot;fancy footwork&quot; is required for it to make sense.

I will just note in closing this is an Albright case, so it&#039;s definitely no surprise he found a way to rule in favor of the patentee plaintiff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a random thought.  Instead of the text you quote (“at a place not within any judicial district of the United States”), if you just look at the heading of Rule 4(f), it says: &#8220;serving an individual in a foreign country.&#8221;  Of course when Rule 4(h) is applied to that, as it would be here, you get: &#8220;serving a [corporation] in a foreign country.&#8221;  TP-Link is a &#8220;corporation in a foreign country&#8221; and it was &#8220;served&#8221; (via US counsel), so in that sense the language of the heading is literally met.</p>
<p>I guess what I&#8217;m trying to say is, maybe the rule focuses more on the location of the party itself and not the quasi-metaphysical &#8220;location&#8221; where service took place?  Of course, as always this isn&#8217;t my area of expertise at all, and if the latter is correct, then I agree &#8220;fancy footwork&#8221; is required for it to make sense.</p>
<p>I will just note in closing this is an Albright case, so it&#8217;s definitely no surprise he found a way to rule in favor of the patentee plaintiff.</p>
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		By: kotodama		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2021 16:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’m not sure whether I’ll have anything to say on this case yet, but OT, as you likely know, the Servotronics case was taken off argument and seems headed for dismissal, so I look forward to this blog’s coverage of that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not sure whether I’ll have anything to say on this case yet, but OT, as you likely know, the Servotronics case was taken off argument and seems headed for dismissal, so I look forward to this blog’s coverage of that.</p>
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