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	Comments on: At Last: A Draft UN Treaty on Business and Human Rights	</title>
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		By: The “Zero Draft”: Missed Opportunity or the Beginning of a Revolution? &#124; Sense &#38; Sustainability		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3136</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The “Zero Draft”: Missed Opportunity or the Beginning of a Revolution? &#124; Sense &#38; Sustainability]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2018 13:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] if it is true that these clauses are “reasonable compromises” to balance investors’ privileged position, the draft fails to specify which rights shall be [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] if it is true that these clauses are “reasonable compromises” to balance investors’ privileged position, the draft fails to specify which rights shall be [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: A UN Convention on Business and Human rights &#8211; where do we stand? GRUNDUNDMENSCHENRECHTSBLOG		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3135</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A UN Convention on Business and Human rights &#8211; where do we stand? GRUNDUNDMENSCHENRECHTSBLOG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2018 06:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] the release of the draft, comments have been made by civil society organizations, scholars and legal experts, law firms, business organizations, and national human rights institutions. Many [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the release of the draft, comments have been made by civil society organizations, scholars and legal experts, law firms, business organizations, and national human rights institutions. Many [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: When It Comes to Human Rights, Zero Is Better than Nothing		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3134</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[When It Comes to Human Rights, Zero Is Better than Nothing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2018 22:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] seat to adopt legislation of their own choosing to meet broadly stated treaty criteria,” as Doug Cassel put it. On which side the scales will tip will soon became clear over the next round of [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] seat to adopt legislation of their own choosing to meet broadly stated treaty criteria,” as Doug Cassel put it. On which side the scales will tip will soon became clear over the next round of [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Ted Folkman		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3133</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Folkman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2018 22:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3131&quot;&gt;Alessandro Spinillo&lt;/a&gt;.

I know that&#039;s the theory, but as I pointed out in an earlier comment to this post, US law currently provides exceptions to the ordinary requirement of recognition when judgments are contrary to public policy &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; when judgments are obtained by fraud. If the treaty has one exception but not the other, expect litigants to argue that the other exception no longer exists in US law&#8212;which is why I think it should be included in the treaty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3131">Alessandro Spinillo</a>.</p>
<p>I know that&#8217;s the theory, but as I pointed out in an earlier comment to this post, US law currently provides exceptions to the ordinary requirement of recognition when judgments are contrary to public policy <em>and</em> when judgments are obtained by fraud. If the treaty has one exception but not the other, expect litigants to argue that the other exception no longer exists in US law&mdash;which is why I think it should be included in the treaty.</p>
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		By: Guest Post: First Draft of the Proposed Treaty on Business &#38; Human Rights: A Step Forward for Access to Justice and Remedy for Victims &#8211; Part I &#124; Business &#38; Human Rights in Ireland		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3132</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guest Post: First Draft of the Proposed Treaty on Business &#38; Human Rights: A Step Forward for Access to Justice and Remedy for Victims &#8211; Part I &#124; Business &#38; Human Rights in Ireland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] view, the transnational character of the corporate abuser is irrelevant. However, as mentioned by Doug Cassel, in practice most domestic companies of any significant size are likely to fall within the scope of [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] view, the transnational character of the corporate abuser is irrelevant. However, as mentioned by Doug Cassel, in practice most domestic companies of any significant size are likely to fall within the scope of [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Alessandro Spinillo		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3131</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alessandro Spinillo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3130&quot;&gt;Ted Folkman&lt;/a&gt;.

Ted, a fraudulent judgment (or a fraudulent arbitration award alike) shall not be enforced in any jurisdiction as a matter of public policy, irrespective of whether or not the treaty had been in force. 

I wonder if Doug could kindly provide some more details about that initiative in the Hague to establish a set of international arbitration rules for disputes involving businesses and human rights.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3130">Ted Folkman</a>.</p>
<p>Ted, a fraudulent judgment (or a fraudulent arbitration award alike) shall not be enforced in any jurisdiction as a matter of public policy, irrespective of whether or not the treaty had been in force. </p>
<p>I wonder if Doug could kindly provide some more details about that initiative in the Hague to establish a set of international arbitration rules for disputes involving businesses and human rights.</p>
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		By: Ted Folkman		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3130</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Folkman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2018 18:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3129&quot;&gt;Alessandro Spinillo&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, you make a very good point. 

I hope that advocates do not say something like: &quot;if only the treaty had been in effect, the Ecuadoran judgment would have been entitled to recognition in the United States!&quot; It seems to me that that idea motivates much of the opposition to the treaty given the US courts&#039; findings about what happened in Ecuador, and surely it&#039;s bad PR to say that the treaty will allow judgments to be recognized even if fraudulent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3129">Alessandro Spinillo</a>.</p>
<p>Well, you make a very good point. </p>
<p>I hope that advocates do not say something like: &#8220;if only the treaty had been in effect, the Ecuadoran judgment would have been entitled to recognition in the United States!&#8221; It seems to me that that idea motivates much of the opposition to the treaty given the US courts&#8217; findings about what happened in Ecuador, and surely it&#8217;s bad PR to say that the treaty will allow judgments to be recognized even if fraudulent.</p>
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		By: Alessandro Spinillo		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3129</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alessandro Spinillo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting discussions on the draft treaty. For my part, I got to digest many of its tenets, but as an attorney with broad experience in litigation in developing countries I believe that Ecuador (and most countries in the region) should focus first and foremost on achieving a transparent and independent judiciary. To have made Chevron liable for the environmental damage caused, you didn&#039;t need a new treaty on human rights, but rather fair and honest national courts whose judgments could be enforced worldwide without lingering suspicions of bias or fraud. Chevron has been a hard-won lesson. But please don&#039;t get me wrong, I still think that the draft treaty may be a positive development in international law, though many refinements seems to be necessary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussions on the draft treaty. For my part, I got to digest many of its tenets, but as an attorney with broad experience in litigation in developing countries I believe that Ecuador (and most countries in the region) should focus first and foremost on achieving a transparent and independent judiciary. To have made Chevron liable for the environmental damage caused, you didn&#8217;t need a new treaty on human rights, but rather fair and honest national courts whose judgments could be enforced worldwide without lingering suspicions of bias or fraud. Chevron has been a hard-won lesson. But please don&#8217;t get me wrong, I still think that the draft treaty may be a positive development in international law, though many refinements seems to be necessary.</p>
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		By: Case of the Day: Helmerich &#038; Payne v. Venezuela &#124; Letters Blogatory &#124; Letters Blogatory		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3128</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Case of the Day: Helmerich &#038; Payne v. Venezuela &#124; Letters Blogatory &#124; Letters Blogatory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2018 14:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] but in light of the public attention on the issue as reflected in the recent publication of a draft treaty on transnational business and human rights, I think appearances matter [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] but in light of the public attention on the issue as reflected in the recent publication of a draft treaty on transnational business and human rights, I think appearances matter [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Doug Cassel		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3127</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Cassel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2018 17:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3126&quot;&gt;Ted Folkman&lt;/a&gt;.

With pleasure - doug]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2018/08/02/at-last-a-draft-un-treaty-on-business-and-human-rights/#comment-3126">Ted Folkman</a>.</p>
<p>With pleasure &#8211; doug</p>
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