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		By: Lago Agrio: Chevron Wins Investment Treaty Arbitration Against Ecuador &#124; Letters Blogatory &#124; Letters Blogatory		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lago Agrio: Chevron Wins Investment Treaty Arbitration Against Ecuador &#124; Letters Blogatory &#124; Letters Blogatory]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] expert), I didn&#8217;t think the claim of the ghostwritten judgment had been proved. My main concern was that the claim rested on the testimony of Guerra, who, if his testimony is true, is not someone [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] expert), I didn&#8217;t think the claim of the ghostwritten judgment had been proved. My main concern was that the claim rested on the testimony of Guerra, who, if his testimony is true, is not someone [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Lago Agrio: Payments to Guerra and Fajardo &#124; Letters Blogatory &#124; Letters Blogatory		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lago Agrio: Payments to Guerra and Fajardo &#124; Letters Blogatory &#124; Letters Blogatory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2017 11:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Guerra, and Chevron&#8217;s payments to Guerra. I&#8217;ve previously covered the Guerra issue (see this post on Guerra&#8217;s testimony in the Chevron/Ecuador treaty arbitration, this post on the quality of [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Guerra, and Chevron&#8217;s payments to Guerra. I&#8217;ve previously covered the Guerra issue (see this post on Guerra&#8217;s testimony in the Chevron/Ecuador treaty arbitration, this post on the quality of [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Lago Agrio: Ontario Superior Court Rules LAPs Cannot Execute The Ecuadorian Judgment In Canada &#124; Letters Blogatory		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lago Agrio: Ontario Superior Court Rules LAPs Cannot Execute The Ecuadorian Judgment In Canada &#124; Letters Blogatory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] litigated elsewhere&#8212;we have seen that the Republic of Ecuador and its lawyers were able to do much better in rebutting the testimony of Judge Guerra in the Chevron/Ecuador investment treaty arbitration [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] litigated elsewhere&mdash;we have seen that the Republic of Ecuador and its lawyers were able to do much better in rebutting the testimony of Judge Guerra in the Chevron/Ecuador investment treaty arbitration [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Peter Lynn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Lynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 01:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2015/10/27/lago-agrio-guerra-unravels/#comment-2338&quot;&gt;Ted Folkman&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the response, which I can relate to and I see where you are coming from. It will be interesting to see where it goes from here. I do believe there is some mileage in it for the LAPs RICO appeal, as these proceedings have cast doubt on the corroboration that Judge Kaplan relied on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2015/10/27/lago-agrio-guerra-unravels/#comment-2338">Ted Folkman</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the response, which I can relate to and I see where you are coming from. It will be interesting to see where it goes from here. I do believe there is some mileage in it for the LAPs RICO appeal, as these proceedings have cast doubt on the corroboration that Judge Kaplan relied on.</p>
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		By: Ted Folkman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Folkman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2015 22:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2015/10/27/lago-agrio-guerra-unravels/#comment-2337&quot;&gt;Peter Lynn&lt;/a&gt;.

Peter, thanks for the note. I guess my point has three parts. First, the Second Circuit reviews the record in the SDNY, not evidence from another proceeding. So this new testimony won&#039;t be considered on appeal. You can bring a motion to expand the record, but I&#039;m not sure why that would be appropriate here. (But Deepak Gupta and Burt Neuborne are very smart guys, so I am sure they will think of something!)

Second, if I recall, Donziger&#039;s brief does not ask the Court to reverse Judge Kaplan&#039;s findings of fact. They say, &quot;ask and you shall receive,&quot; and the converse, in the law of appeals, is &quot;don&#039;t ask and you can&#039;t receive.&quot; On the other hand, as you say, Donziger&#039;s brief does focus a lot of attention on the perceived problems with the judge&#039;s factual findings.

Third, it was already clear in the RICO trial that Guerra was a liar. So I don&#039;t know that &quot;this changes everything.&quot; As I note in the post, the piece of testimony that the plaintiffs and Donziger have been trumpeting is Guerra&#039;s admission that he lied about the &lt;em&gt;amount&lt;/em&gt; of the bribe he was offered. But that&#039;s just icing on the cake&#8212;it doesn&#039;t change the fundamentals of his earlier testimony, as far as I can tell.

I&#039;m not guaranteeing this is right, but it&#039;s how I see things, anyway!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2015/10/27/lago-agrio-guerra-unravels/#comment-2337">Peter Lynn</a>.</p>
<p>Peter, thanks for the note. I guess my point has three parts. First, the Second Circuit reviews the record in the SDNY, not evidence from another proceeding. So this new testimony won&#8217;t be considered on appeal. You can bring a motion to expand the record, but I&#8217;m not sure why that would be appropriate here. (But Deepak Gupta and Burt Neuborne are very smart guys, so I am sure they will think of something!)</p>
<p>Second, if I recall, Donziger&#8217;s brief does not ask the Court to reverse Judge Kaplan&#8217;s findings of fact. They say, &#8220;ask and you shall receive,&#8221; and the converse, in the law of appeals, is &#8220;don&#8217;t ask and you can&#8217;t receive.&#8221; On the other hand, as you say, Donziger&#8217;s brief does focus a lot of attention on the perceived problems with the judge&#8217;s factual findings.</p>
<p>Third, it was already clear in the RICO trial that Guerra was a liar. So I don&#8217;t know that &#8220;this changes everything.&#8221; As I note in the post, the piece of testimony that the plaintiffs and Donziger have been trumpeting is Guerra&#8217;s admission that he lied about the <em>amount</em> of the bribe he was offered. But that&#8217;s just icing on the cake&mdash;it doesn&#8217;t change the fundamentals of his earlier testimony, as far as I can tell.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not guaranteeing this is right, but it&#8217;s how I see things, anyway!</p>
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		By: Peter Lynn		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2015/10/27/lago-agrio-guerra-unravels/#comment-2337</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Lynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello Ted
This is, as usual, a very good review of the important elements of this latest development. Your blog provides the most balanced analysis of this case that I&#039;ve found on the web. That said, I&#039;m struggling with some of your conclusions, and I&#039;m hoping you won&#039;t mind helping me understand.

You state in the second paragraph &#039;He (Guerra) is the witness whose testimony led Judge Kaplan to conclude that the plaintiffs had ghostwritten Judge Zambrano’s judgment.He is a big deal.&#039;  I don&#039;t think many would disagree. So why do you conclude that this will make little difference to the RICO appeal?

You say that &#039;Donziger is not really claiming on appeal that the judge’s findings of fact were clearly erroneous&#039; and admittedly I&#039;m able to find very little in his appeal other than the line &#039;To be clear, Mr. Donziger vigorously contests these allegations&#039;. However, he has always denied wrongdoing, and I put his appeal strategy down to it being very difficult to overturn findings of fact. That is, however Donziger might feel about the findings, the second circuit were more likely to be persuaded by technical arguments of standing, unavailability of injunctive relief, comity etc than by the prospect of finding that Kaplan was wrong in his findings. 

But that was then, and surely this changes everything. The star witness has admitted he lied, and his corroboration has just vanished. He has also admitted that the government never intervened, shooting another hole into Judge Kaplans findings of fact. Could Kaplan have made the same findings had the cross examination revealed all this in his courtroom? If not, surely the appeal court must take note.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Ted<br />
This is, as usual, a very good review of the important elements of this latest development. Your blog provides the most balanced analysis of this case that I&#8217;ve found on the web. That said, I&#8217;m struggling with some of your conclusions, and I&#8217;m hoping you won&#8217;t mind helping me understand.</p>
<p>You state in the second paragraph &#8216;He (Guerra) is the witness whose testimony led Judge Kaplan to conclude that the plaintiffs had ghostwritten Judge Zambrano’s judgment.He is a big deal.&#8217;  I don&#8217;t think many would disagree. So why do you conclude that this will make little difference to the RICO appeal?</p>
<p>You say that &#8216;Donziger is not really claiming on appeal that the judge’s findings of fact were clearly erroneous&#8217; and admittedly I&#8217;m able to find very little in his appeal other than the line &#8216;To be clear, Mr. Donziger vigorously contests these allegations&#8217;. However, he has always denied wrongdoing, and I put his appeal strategy down to it being very difficult to overturn findings of fact. That is, however Donziger might feel about the findings, the second circuit were more likely to be persuaded by technical arguments of standing, unavailability of injunctive relief, comity etc than by the prospect of finding that Kaplan was wrong in his findings. </p>
<p>But that was then, and surely this changes everything. The star witness has admitted he lied, and his corroboration has just vanished. He has also admitted that the government never intervened, shooting another hole into Judge Kaplans findings of fact. Could Kaplan have made the same findings had the cross examination revealed all this in his courtroom? If not, surely the appeal court must take note.</p>
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		By: Ted Folkman		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2015/10/27/lago-agrio-guerra-unravels/#comment-2336</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Folkman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2015/10/27/lago-agrio-guerra-unravels/#comment-2335&quot;&gt;Michael Cepek&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Michael&#8212;I appreciate the encouragement!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2015/10/27/lago-agrio-guerra-unravels/#comment-2335">Michael Cepek</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Michael&mdash;I appreciate the encouragement!</p>
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		By: Michael Cepek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Cepek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks once again, Ted, for the great reflections you provide on this blog. It seems that the comments on your Chevron-related posts have dropped off, but you should know that many, many of us with deep interests in this case continue to read your work and to learn much from it. Many thanks! (And, I am extremely curious to see how this new testimony enters into the Canadian proceedings.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks once again, Ted, for the great reflections you provide on this blog. It seems that the comments on your Chevron-related posts have dropped off, but you should know that many, many of us with deep interests in this case continue to read your work and to learn much from it. Many thanks! (And, I am extremely curious to see how this new testimony enters into the Canadian proceedings.)</p>
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