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	Comments on: Maya Steinitz on &#8220;The Case For An International Court of Civil Justice&#8221;	</title>
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		By: Ted Folkman		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2014/12/16/maya-steinitz-case-international-court-civil-justice/#comment-2086&quot;&gt;Alex Blumrosen&lt;/a&gt;.

Alex, thanks for the interesting comment. Yes, arbitration can be used in tort claims, and yes it is possible to submit a dispute to arbitration even in the absence of an ex ante agreement to arbitrate. I&#039;m a proponent of arbitration, for sure (&lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2014/11/06/aaa-national-roster/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;I had better be!&lt;/a&gt;) But in the context of big transnational torts, it&#039;s difficult for me to imagine both parties agreeing to arbitrate. I wonder if there are any examples out there to help us judge whether this is a real practical possibility?

By the way, we have have been following the news from Paris very carefully today here in Boston and I&#039;m sure elsewhere. Nous sommes tous Français, especially today!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2014/12/16/maya-steinitz-case-international-court-civil-justice/#comment-2086">Alex Blumrosen</a>.</p>
<p>Alex, thanks for the interesting comment. Yes, arbitration can be used in tort claims, and yes it is possible to submit a dispute to arbitration even in the absence of an ex ante agreement to arbitrate. I&#8217;m a proponent of arbitration, for sure (<a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2014/11/06/aaa-national-roster/" rel="nofollow ugc">I had better be!</a>) But in the context of big transnational torts, it&#8217;s difficult for me to imagine both parties agreeing to arbitrate. I wonder if there are any examples out there to help us judge whether this is a real practical possibility?</p>
<p>By the way, we have have been following the news from Paris very carefully today here in Boston and I&#8217;m sure elsewhere. Nous sommes tous Français, especially today!</p>
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		By: Alex Blumrosen		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ted, thanks for posting the link.  Maya dismisses too hastily in my view international arbitration as a possible venue for these claims, with this comment in her paper; &quot;International commercial arbitration is a private process between private parties regarding private law claims (not torts) and requires an agreement, usually entered into ex ante, to arbitrate from which to derive its jurisdiction.&quot;

Arbitration can and does include tort claims, in particular when they arise in connection with a breach of contract that is covered by a contractual arbitration clause; ancillary tort claims are arbitrable in most jurisdictions, and efforts to bring those tort claims into courts in the presence of a sufficiently broad arbitration clause will not succeed.  

Further, arbitration is not confined to ex ante arbitration agreements; parties to a tort or contract dispute may submit their dispute to binding arbitration after the dispute arises; the resulting award will be enforceable under the NY Convention.  

If it is really in the interest of corporate America to identify an alternative forum, then I submit it should be far easier to convince parties to use a consensual arbitral forum than to create ex nihilo a new mandatory international jurisdiction that would necessarily create a whole range of new conflicts of law issues (not to mention the impossible political and diplomatic issues involved).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted, thanks for posting the link.  Maya dismisses too hastily in my view international arbitration as a possible venue for these claims, with this comment in her paper; &#8220;International commercial arbitration is a private process between private parties regarding private law claims (not torts) and requires an agreement, usually entered into ex ante, to arbitrate from which to derive its jurisdiction.&#8221;</p>
<p>Arbitration can and does include tort claims, in particular when they arise in connection with a breach of contract that is covered by a contractual arbitration clause; ancillary tort claims are arbitrable in most jurisdictions, and efforts to bring those tort claims into courts in the presence of a sufficiently broad arbitration clause will not succeed.  </p>
<p>Further, arbitration is not confined to ex ante arbitration agreements; parties to a tort or contract dispute may submit their dispute to binding arbitration after the dispute arises; the resulting award will be enforceable under the NY Convention.  </p>
<p>If it is really in the interest of corporate America to identify an alternative forum, then I submit it should be far easier to convince parties to use a consensual arbitral forum than to create ex nihilo a new mandatory international jurisdiction that would necessarily create a whole range of new conflicts of law issues (not to mention the impossible political and diplomatic issues involved).</p>
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