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		By: Chris Bray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Bray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 02:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2014/05/01/belfast-project-gerry-adams-arrested-mcconville-murder-case/#comment-1864&quot;&gt;Ted Folkman&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-27280283&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;&quot;Gerry Adams Release Embarrassing for PSNI.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

The plot reveals itself as the farce it was always destined to be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2014/05/01/belfast-project-gerry-adams-arrested-mcconville-murder-case/#comment-1864">Ted Folkman</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-27280283" rel="nofollow ugc">&#8220;Gerry Adams Release Embarrassing for PSNI.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>The plot reveals itself as the farce it was always destined to be.</p>
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		By: Ted Folkman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Folkman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 02:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2014/05/01/belfast-project-gerry-adams-arrested-mcconville-murder-case/#comment-1863&quot;&gt;Chris Bray&lt;/a&gt;.

The plot thickens!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2014/05/01/belfast-project-gerry-adams-arrested-mcconville-murder-case/#comment-1863">Chris Bray</a>.</p>
<p>The plot thickens!</p>
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		By: Chris Bray		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 18:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/05/04/belfast-police-search-for-evidence-gerry-adams-ira-past/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;&quot;Sinn Fein party leader Gerry Adams to be freed, charges unlikely, police say.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/05/04/belfast-police-search-for-evidence-gerry-adams-ira-past/" rel="nofollow ugc">&#8220;Sinn Fein party leader Gerry Adams to be freed, charges unlikely, police say.&#8221;</a></p>
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		By: P Smith		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2014/05/01/belfast-project-gerry-adams-arrested-mcconville-murder-case/#comment-1862</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2014/05/01/belfast-project-gerry-adams-arrested-mcconville-murder-case/#comment-1858&quot;&gt;Ted Folkman&lt;/a&gt;.

It depends. 

In the circumstances Bell would be a competent and compellable witness for the prosecution against Adams (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.legislation.gov.uk/nisi/1999/2789/article/31&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;article 31&lt;/a&gt; of the Criminal Evidence (Northern Ireland) Order 1999), and would have no right to refuse to answer questions.

There is however a rule of practice (but not of law!) that the prosecution should not in these circumstances be calling Bell as a witness, even if he were willing to testify, unless they have undertaken to discontinue the proceedings against Bell. It is difficult to see how introduction of hearsay statements could be permitted as an alternative in circumstances where an available and willing witness is not supposed to be called.

If Bell, having been summoned, did refuse to give evidence out of fear for some cause acceptable to the court then it is still necessary for the court to give leave for the introduction of the tapes and the court must consider the factors set out in article 20(4). Also the overall fairness of the proceedings must be borne in mind, and otherwise admissible evidence can be excluded by various routes if its admission would make the proceedings unfair.

R v Horncastle &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2009/964.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;[2009] EWCA Crim 964&lt;/a&gt; discusses at length the interplay between the identical English statutory rules on hearsay and the ECHR article 6 right to a fair trial in light of the decision of European Court of Human Rights in Al-Khawaja v United Kingdom (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/ECHR/2009/110.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;(BAILII)&lt;/a&gt;) that there had been a breach of article 6 where convictions &quot;had been based to a sole or decisive degree on the statements [by identified unavailable witnesses] which the appellants had had no opportunity of challenging&quot;.

All of this assumes that &quot;Z&quot; can be identified to the court&#039;s satisfaction, whether or not he proves to be Bell; if not the requirement of article 20(1)(b) is not satisfied and the tapes are not admissible under article 20.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2014/05/01/belfast-project-gerry-adams-arrested-mcconville-murder-case/#comment-1858">Ted Folkman</a>.</p>
<p>It depends. </p>
<p>In the circumstances Bell would be a competent and compellable witness for the prosecution against Adams (see <a href="http://www.legislation.gov.uk/nisi/1999/2789/article/31" rel="nofollow ugc">article 31</a> of the Criminal Evidence (Northern Ireland) Order 1999), and would have no right to refuse to answer questions.</p>
<p>There is however a rule of practice (but not of law!) that the prosecution should not in these circumstances be calling Bell as a witness, even if he were willing to testify, unless they have undertaken to discontinue the proceedings against Bell. It is difficult to see how introduction of hearsay statements could be permitted as an alternative in circumstances where an available and willing witness is not supposed to be called.</p>
<p>If Bell, having been summoned, did refuse to give evidence out of fear for some cause acceptable to the court then it is still necessary for the court to give leave for the introduction of the tapes and the court must consider the factors set out in article 20(4). Also the overall fairness of the proceedings must be borne in mind, and otherwise admissible evidence can be excluded by various routes if its admission would make the proceedings unfair.</p>
<p>R v Horncastle <a href="http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2009/964.html" rel="nofollow ugc">[2009] EWCA Crim 964</a> discusses at length the interplay between the identical English statutory rules on hearsay and the ECHR article 6 right to a fair trial in light of the decision of European Court of Human Rights in Al-Khawaja v United Kingdom (<a href="http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/ECHR/2009/110.html" rel="nofollow ugc">(BAILII)</a>) that there had been a breach of article 6 where convictions &#8220;had been based to a sole or decisive degree on the statements [by identified unavailable witnesses] which the appellants had had no opportunity of challenging&#8221;.</p>
<p>All of this assumes that &#8220;Z&#8221; can be identified to the court&#8217;s satisfaction, whether or not he proves to be Bell; if not the requirement of article 20(1)(b) is not satisfied and the tapes are not admissible under article 20.</p>
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		By: Bridget Kearney		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 15:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Police going to court now to request extension in holding Adams.   Presumably they will have to show their hand to a certain extent, may shed some light on where they are going with this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Police going to court now to request extension in holding Adams.   Presumably they will have to show their hand to a certain extent, may shed some light on where they are going with this.</p>
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		By: Kateyo		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2014/05/01/belfast-project-gerry-adams-arrested-mcconville-murder-case/#comment-1860</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kateyo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 18:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also Bridget and Ted, the news said that this was an &#039;interview under caution&#039; and Gerry Adams showed up with his solicitor, which would suggest he knew the possibility of being detained, this would be bourne out in my view with the interviews given to RTE where Mr Adams restated his position, before he went to Antrim. 

Whether or not you believe this to be a political policing act there is certainly a huge PR fight back going on and the FT have done a good job of analysis on this aspect of things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Bridget and Ted, the news said that this was an &#8216;interview under caution&#8217; and Gerry Adams showed up with his solicitor, which would suggest he knew the possibility of being detained, this would be bourne out in my view with the interviews given to RTE where Mr Adams restated his position, before he went to Antrim. </p>
<p>Whether or not you believe this to be a political policing act there is certainly a huge PR fight back going on and the FT have done a good job of analysis on this aspect of things.</p>
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		By: Kateyo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kateyo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 18:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi there, not sure if this is relevant but Adams according to this evenings news is held under the terrorism act, he is due to be released around 8 this evening if not he can be held until 8 tomorrow night but after that the police will have to go to court where he canbe held potentially for up to 28 days. Most commentators think this is unlikely, and say he could be released without charge, or a file sent to the DPP (director of public prosecutions for his decision) or charged. We should know for certain how the land lies in this issue in the next 24 hours.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, not sure if this is relevant but Adams according to this evenings news is held under the terrorism act, he is due to be released around 8 this evening if not he can be held until 8 tomorrow night but after that the police will have to go to court where he canbe held potentially for up to 28 days. Most commentators think this is unlikely, and say he could be released without charge, or a file sent to the DPP (director of public prosecutions for his decision) or charged. We should know for certain how the land lies in this issue in the next 24 hours.</p>
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		By: Ted Folkman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Folkman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 17:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2014/05/01/belfast-project-gerry-adams-arrested-mcconville-murder-case/#comment-1856&quot;&gt;P Smith&lt;/a&gt;.

P Smith, thank you for the pointer to the Criminal Justice (Evidence) Northern Ireland Order 2004. I&#039;d just like to say: yikes! Article 20, as I read it, is extremely liberal and would certainly be unconstitutional in the United States in criminal cases in light of the Confrontation Clause (&quot;In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right &#8230; to be confronted with the witnesses against him &#8230;&quot; 

Assuming that &quot;Z&quot; is in fact Ivor Bell, I wonder: assuming (as I do, but in light of what you&#039;ve just explained maybe I shouldn&#039;t!) that Bell has a right against self-incrimination that he could invoke to avoid testifying in any trial of Adams, would his out-of-court statement come within the &quot;fear&quot; prong of article 20?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2014/05/01/belfast-project-gerry-adams-arrested-mcconville-murder-case/#comment-1856">P Smith</a>.</p>
<p>P Smith, thank you for the pointer to the Criminal Justice (Evidence) Northern Ireland Order 2004. I&#8217;d just like to say: yikes! Article 20, as I read it, is extremely liberal and would certainly be unconstitutional in the United States in criminal cases in light of the Confrontation Clause (&#8220;In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right &hellip; to be confronted with the witnesses against him &hellip;&#8221; </p>
<p>Assuming that &#8220;Z&#8221; is in fact Ivor Bell, I wonder: assuming (as I do, but in light of what you&#8217;ve just explained maybe I shouldn&#8217;t!) that Bell has a right against self-incrimination that he could invoke to avoid testifying in any trial of Adams, would his out-of-court statement come within the &#8220;fear&#8221; prong of article 20?</p>
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		By: Laura		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 17:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to add to the discussion one key thought: The arrest of Gerry Adams at this particular point in time is likely a political maneuver.  Northern Ireland is in the middle of an election campaign, and Adams volunteered to come in to discuss the McConville case awhile ago, before the elections.  Whatever evidence the PSNI has or doesn&#039;t have, it&#039;s difficult to see how the timing isn&#039;t intended to derail Sinn Fein in the upcoming polls.  In addition, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the Fine Gael-Labour coalition in the Republic had encouraged it as well, since the &quot;Shinners&quot; are increasingly popular there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to add to the discussion one key thought: The arrest of Gerry Adams at this particular point in time is likely a political maneuver.  Northern Ireland is in the middle of an election campaign, and Adams volunteered to come in to discuss the McConville case awhile ago, before the elections.  Whatever evidence the PSNI has or doesn&#8217;t have, it&#8217;s difficult to see how the timing isn&#8217;t intended to derail Sinn Fein in the upcoming polls.  In addition, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the Fine Gael-Labour coalition in the Republic had encouraged it as well, since the &#8220;Shinners&#8221; are increasingly popular there.</p>
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		By: P Smith		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 15:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The PACE Codes of Practice state that if police want to question someone about their alleged involvement in an offence then, in the absence of urgent justifying circumstances, they must do so under caution and at a police station. If the person in question attends voluntarily then that suffices (although it will necessary to arrest them to prevent them leaving), but if not the person will be arrested and brought to the station. The powers of UK police to arrest without warrant are broad and routinely exercised.

The Northern Irish law on admissibility of hearsay evidence other than confessions is to be found in Part III of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.legislation.gov.uk/nisi/2004/1501/contents&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Criminal Justice (Evidence) Northern Ireland Order 2004&lt;/a&gt;, and attention is drawn to article 20 (cases where a witness is not available, which Belfast Project interviewees may well not be).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PACE Codes of Practice state that if police want to question someone about their alleged involvement in an offence then, in the absence of urgent justifying circumstances, they must do so under caution and at a police station. If the person in question attends voluntarily then that suffices (although it will necessary to arrest them to prevent them leaving), but if not the person will be arrested and brought to the station. The powers of UK police to arrest without warrant are broad and routinely exercised.</p>
<p>The Northern Irish law on admissibility of hearsay evidence other than confessions is to be found in Part III of the <a href="http://www.legislation.gov.uk/nisi/2004/1501/contents" rel="nofollow ugc">Criminal Justice (Evidence) Northern Ireland Order 2004</a>, and attention is drawn to article 20 (cases where a witness is not available, which Belfast Project interviewees may well not be).</p>
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