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		By: Ted Folkman		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-812</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Folkman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 14:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-808&quot;&gt;Chris Bray&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re right, but is it easier to imagine that Judge Young saw relevance where there was none, or that Ed Moloney is not telling the truth about what&#039;s in the interview? I don&#039;t think so. That&#039;s the puzzle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-808">Chris Bray</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, but is it easier to imagine that Judge Young saw relevance where there was none, or that Ed Moloney is not telling the truth about what&#8217;s in the interview? I don&#8217;t think so. That&#8217;s the puzzle.</p>
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		By: anon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 12:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What grounds would there be for an appeal? 

Will an appeal be granted, If the appeal is not granted is the next step the ECHR? 

If so aren&#039;t these procedures doomed to fail, in particular the European route, as they contain the same argument and flaws as the Belfast case yesterday?

[Link]

[Link]

All of these steps could fail for the same reason the Belfast high court failed couldn&#039;t they?

Delaying tatics or can there be any hope of success, plus the expense. Litigation is expensive everywhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What grounds would there be for an appeal? </p>
<p>Will an appeal be granted, If the appeal is not granted is the next step the ECHR? </p>
<p>If so aren&#8217;t these procedures doomed to fail, in particular the European route, as they contain the same argument and flaws as the Belfast case yesterday?</p>
<p>[Link]</p>
<p>[Link]</p>
<p>All of these steps could fail for the same reason the Belfast high court failed couldn&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>Delaying tatics or can there be any hope of success, plus the expense. Litigation is expensive everywhere.</p>
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		By: anon		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-810</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Despite the ruling, the PSNI will not yet automatically gain access to the tapes.

Lawyers for Mr McIntyre are expected to lodge an appeal against Mr Justice Treacy’s decision.

And any handover of the material has also been put on hold by the courts in America, pending a further hearing before the US Supreme Court.

Mr McIntyre’s solicitor, Kevin Winters, confirmed: “We have consulted with our client and we are set to appeal.

“We also welcome the stay that has been granted in the American courts because it prevents the handover of the tapes.

“That decision assists Mr McIntyre while he deals with the outstanding appeal issues arising from today’s judgment.”
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the ruling, the PSNI will not yet automatically gain access to the tapes.</p>
<p>Lawyers for Mr McIntyre are expected to lodge an appeal against Mr Justice Treacy’s decision.</p>
<p>And any handover of the material has also been put on hold by the courts in America, pending a further hearing before the US Supreme Court.</p>
<p>Mr McIntyre’s solicitor, Kevin Winters, confirmed: “We have consulted with our client and we are set to appeal.</p>
<p>“We also welcome the stay that has been granted in the American courts because it prevents the handover of the tapes.</p>
<p>“That decision assists Mr McIntyre while he deals with the outstanding appeal issues arising from today’s judgment.”</p>
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		By: anon		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-809</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 08:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Lawyers for McIntyre are expected to appeal&quot;

Read more: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/exira-man-anthony-mcintyre-loses-court-battle-to-prevent-police-seizure-of-price-tapes-16219112.html#ixzz28DxM8TYF&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;[Link]&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lawyers for McIntyre are expected to appeal&#8221;</p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/exira-man-anthony-mcintyre-loses-court-battle-to-prevent-police-seizure-of-price-tapes-16219112.html#ixzz28DxM8TYF" rel="nofollow ugc">[Link]</a></p>
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		By: Chris Bray		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-808</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Bray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 23:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-805&quot;&gt;Ted Folkman&lt;/a&gt;.

But the second set of subpoenas very narrowly, explicitly, and specifically demanded all interviews germane to the McConville murder. And the first set demanded the interviews of two people who are known to have participated in it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-805">Ted Folkman</a>.</p>
<p>But the second set of subpoenas very narrowly, explicitly, and specifically demanded all interviews germane to the McConville murder. And the first set demanded the interviews of two people who are known to have participated in it.</p>
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		By: Ted Folkman		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-807</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Folkman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-806&quot;&gt;Anthony McIntyre&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds right to me, or at least there&#039;s no indication in the press that the UK authorities are conducting such an investigation! Thanks for commenting, Anthony.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-806">Anthony McIntyre</a>.</p>
<p>Sounds right to me, or at least there&#8217;s no indication in the press that the UK authorities are conducting such an investigation! Thanks for commenting, Anthony.</p>
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		By: Anthony McIntyre		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-806</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ted,

one thing we can say for certain is that the British state is not investigating the killings organised by the British Army Force Research Unit and RUC Special Branch]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted,</p>
<p>one thing we can say for certain is that the British state is not investigating the killings organised by the British Army Force Research Unit and RUC Special Branch</p>
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		By: Ted Folkman		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-805</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Folkman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 15:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-804&quot;&gt;Chris Bray&lt;/a&gt;.

Chris, you assume that we know precisely what the UK authorities are investigating! The more I think about this, the more I come to think that the UK&#039;s investigation is much broader than the McConville murder. That&#039;s the best way, I think, to make sense of what we know, namely that Judge Young, who reviewed the Price interview and the others in camera, found them to be relevant given what he knew, but we don&#039;t, about the scope of the investigation. This is true whichever version of the Price interview---Ed Moloney&#039;s or the version given by Dolours Price herself---you accept as most likely true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-804">Chris Bray</a>.</p>
<p>Chris, you assume that we know precisely what the UK authorities are investigating! The more I think about this, the more I come to think that the UK&#8217;s investigation is much broader than the McConville murder. That&#8217;s the best way, I think, to make sense of what we know, namely that Judge Young, who reviewed the Price interview and the others in camera, found them to be relevant given what he knew, but we don&#8217;t, about the scope of the investigation. This is true whichever version of the Price interview&#8212;Ed Moloney&#8217;s or the version given by Dolours Price herself&#8212;you accept as most likely true.</p>
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		By: Chris Bray		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/10/02/belfast-project-high-court/#comment-804</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Bray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 15:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meanwhile, take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independent.ie/national-news/adams-was-on-ira-army-council-says-taoiseach-3244321.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;this story&lt;/a&gt; from an Irish newspaper this week:

So the clearer the evidence becomes---and we now have multiple and direct public confessions of involvement from one of the people who participated in the kidnapping and murder of Jean McConville---look what&#039;s happening and what&#039;s not happening. The police have not arrested, or even questioned, the person confessing to her role in the murder. But the public confessions are being used in, yes, political speeches.

The Department of Justice is participating in Irish politics, not a murder investigation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, take a look at <a href="http://www.independent.ie/national-news/adams-was-on-ira-army-council-says-taoiseach-3244321.html" rel="nofollow ugc">this story</a> from an Irish newspaper this week:</p>
<p>So the clearer the evidence becomes&#8212;and we now have multiple and direct public confessions of involvement from one of the people who participated in the kidnapping and murder of Jean McConville&#8212;look what&#8217;s happening and what&#8217;s not happening. The police have not arrested, or even questioned, the person confessing to her role in the murder. But the public confessions are being used in, yes, political speeches.</p>
<p>The Department of Justice is participating in Irish politics, not a murder investigation.</p>
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