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	Comments on: Fifty Shades of Gray: Canadian Court Rules that the Hague Service Convention Does Not Apply to Canadian Residents to be Served Abroad	</title>
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		By: Ted Folkman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/07/27/fifty-shades-of-gray/#comment-732&quot;&gt;Antonin I. Pribetic&lt;/a&gt;.

Now if I can just persuade you that service by mail in Canada in a foreign lawsuit is permissible under the Convention!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/07/27/fifty-shades-of-gray/#comment-732">Antonin I. Pribetic</a>.</p>
<p>Now if I can just persuade you that service by mail in Canada in a foreign lawsuit is permissible under the Convention!</p>
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		By: Antonin I. Pribetic		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/07/27/fifty-shades-of-gray/#comment-731&quot;&gt;Ted Folkman&lt;/a&gt;.

Ted, I agree. Acceptance or admission of service by local counsel on behalf of a defendant is a form of presence-based jurisdiction and also constitutes an alternative to personal service under Rule 16.03 which reads in part:

.ALTERNATIVES TO PERSONAL SERVICE

Where Available

16.03  (1)  Where these rules or an order of the court permit service by an alternative to personal service, service shall be made in accordance with this rule. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 194, r. 16.03 (1).

Acceptance of Service by Lawyer

(2)  Service on a party who has a lawyer may be made by leaving a copy of the document with the lawyer or an employee in the lawyer’s office, but service under this subrule is effective only if the lawyer endorses on the document or a copy of it an acceptance of service and the date of the acceptance. O. Reg. 575/07, s. 17.
(3)  By accepting service the lawyer shall be deemed to represent to the court that the lawyer has the authority of his or her client to accept service. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 194, r. 16.03 (3); O. Reg. 575/07, s. 1.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/07/27/fifty-shades-of-gray/#comment-731">Ted Folkman</a>.</p>
<p>Ted, I agree. Acceptance or admission of service by local counsel on behalf of a defendant is a form of presence-based jurisdiction and also constitutes an alternative to personal service under Rule 16.03 which reads in part:</p>
<p>.ALTERNATIVES TO PERSONAL SERVICE</p>
<p>Where Available</p>
<p>16.03  (1)  Where these rules or an order of the court permit service by an alternative to personal service, service shall be made in accordance with this rule. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 194, r. 16.03 (1).</p>
<p>Acceptance of Service by Lawyer</p>
<p>(2)  Service on a party who has a lawyer may be made by leaving a copy of the document with the lawyer or an employee in the lawyer’s office, but service under this subrule is effective only if the lawyer endorses on the document or a copy of it an acceptance of service and the date of the acceptance. O. Reg. 575/07, s. 17.<br />
(3)  By accepting service the lawyer shall be deemed to represent to the court that the lawyer has the authority of his or her client to accept service. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 194, r. 16.03 (3); O. Reg. 575/07, s. 1.</p>
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		By: Ted Folkman		</title>
		<link>https://lettersblogatory.com/2012/07/27/fifty-shades-of-gray/#comment-731</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Antonin, for the guest post. It might be useful to note that the particular method of substituted service at issue in &lt;em&gt;Gray&lt;/em&gt; was service on A&#239;ssa&#039;s lawyer in Ottawa. The &lt;em&gt;Gray&lt;/em&gt; case is a Canadian example of something we&#039;ve seen frequently in the US cases: where a defendant is abroad, service on the defendant&#039;s lawyer in Canada (or the US, as the case may be) avoids the Hague Service Convention altogether, because there is no occasion to transmit a document for service abroad, as Article 1 of the Convention requires. The question whether there is such an occasion is a question for the law of the forum.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Antonin, for the guest post. It might be useful to note that the particular method of substituted service at issue in <em>Gray</em> was service on A&iuml;ssa&#8217;s lawyer in Ottawa. The <em>Gray</em> case is a Canadian example of something we&#8217;ve seen frequently in the US cases: where a defendant is abroad, service on the defendant&#8217;s lawyer in Canada (or the US, as the case may be) avoids the Hague Service Convention altogether, because there is no occasion to transmit a document for service abroad, as Article 1 of the Convention requires. The question whether there is such an occasion is a question for the law of the forum.</p>
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		By: Fifty Shades of Gray: Canadian court rules that the Hague Service Convention does not apply to Canadian residents to be served abroad &#171; THE TRIAL WARRIOR BLOG		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] earlier version of the preceding post has been cross-posted over at Letters Blogatory. My sincere thanks to Ted Folkman for inviting me to guest blog as the Canadian correspondent of [...]]]></description>
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